[This version created by Tim Illingworth from an OCR scan by Pat McMurray. I’ve included the text of the Business Passed On, and removed George’s page number references, as they don’t make sense in this version. TI]
The World Science Fiction Society Business Meeting at Denvention Two was scheduled to be held in four sessions, daily at 9:30-11:30 A.M. from Friday, Sept. 4, to Monday, Sept. 7, 1981, in the Vail Room of the Denver Hilton; only the first three of these sessions proved to be necessary. The officers for all three sessions were: Donald Eastlake, Chairman; George Flynn, Secretary; Rick Katze, Sergeant-at-Arms.
The meeting was called to order at 9:33 A.M. An attendance list was passed around and eventually signed by 56 people (not counting the Chairman and Secretary). The Chair appointed Rick Katze Sergeant-at-Arms, but decided no timekeeper was needed at this time. The Chair had two items to bring up before the scheduled order of business. The first was a suggested motion to clear up the eligibility of Superman II for next year's Dramatic Hugo (this motion had been publicly suggested by members of the Chicon IV committee, but not actually submitted prior to this time), The motion was made by Catherine Filipowicz and Leslie Turek, and appears below as Item 17. The Chair's second proposal was a clarification of Standing Rule 2; this motion was made by Bob Hillis and Larry Ruh:
(The changes primarily alter ‘Preliminary Business Meeting’ to ‘Meetings’.) MS (Mr. Katze) to change ‘intent of the maker’ to ‘intent of the motion’ in the last sentence: passed without objection. The motion as amended was then passed without objection.
The remainder of the day’s business consisted of the preliminary consideration of the (then 17) items on the agenda and the setting of debate time limits for those items passed on to the Main Business Meeting (Sunday).
- The default time limit would be 6 minutes. Motions were made and seconded to set the time limit at 10, 6, and 5 minutes. These were voted on in succession: 10 minutes, defeated 3-many; 6 minutes, defeated; 5 minutes, passed.
- Default time limit, 6 minutes. MS to set limit at 3, 4, 6, 7 minutes: 7 minutes, defeated; 6 minutes, passed.
- Default time limit, 6 minutes. MS to set limit at 15, 6, 10 minutes; 15 minutes, defeated; 10 minutes, passed.
(This changes the fanzine publishing requirement from four issues with one in the previous year to simply two issues in the previous year.)
- Default time limit: 6 minutes. MS to set limit at 10, 6, 5 minutes; 10 minutes, passed 17-14.
- Default time limit: 6 minutes. MS to set limit at 10, 0, 4 minutes; 10 minutes, defeated; 4 minutes passed.
The Chair ruled that passage of this amendment would not override the word limits in the fiction categories. Default time limit, 20 minutes. MS to set limit at 8, 10, 20 minutes; 20 minutes, defeated; 10 minutes passed.
The Chair noted his past ruling that there would always be at least 3 nominees on the ballot in each category, assuming that 3 different entities were nominated. Default time limit, 6 minutes. MS to set 4 minutes at the start of debate for an explanation; Withdrawn after the Chair gave assurances that initial explanations would not be counted against debate time. MS to set debate limit at 10 minutes passed without objection.
(The following explanation was included in Sunday's agenda: "It has been suggested that the meaning of this rule might be clarified by some examples. Suppose 500 people make Hugo nominations, but only 400 nominate in a particular category; the qualifying number in that category would then be 5% of 400, or 20. Any nominee receiving fewer than 20 votes thus would not appear on the final ballot, unless it were one of the top three (plus ties) in that category. There would always be at least three nominees on the final ballot." - written by the Secretary, after a suggestion by Leslie Turek.)
REPORT OF THE WSFS MARK REGISTRATION COMMITTEE
To: Denvention II Business meeting
From: Donald Eastlake, III, Chairman
Date 1 September 1981
The committee was formed by the adoption of a motion at the Noreascon II Business Meeting. Its purpose was to take action to protect the names in use by the Society, such as World Science Fiction Convention and Hugo Award. Almost all actions by the committee were taken by its Chairman, who drafted this report. Below is a summary of the achievements of the committee and a set of recommendations.
Achievements
Recommendations
The adoption by the Denvention II Business Meeting of the following motion is recommended:
Explanation: These three items are grouped, as they all relate to mark terminology. A) Notice should be given of the marks, which should be registered by Chicon IV when this motion may be ratified. B) Use of ‘Hugo Awards’ instead of ‘Hugos’ is due to the common use of ‘Hugo’s’ in other contexts. C) ‘Worldcon’ was the only mark not officially recognized in the Constitution and this should also permit some shortening of the Constitution.
[Item 8B] MOVED, to
Committee: Donald Eastlake, III, Chairman; George Flynn; Charles Hillestad, Esq.; Richard Katze, Esq.; Craig Miller; and Larry Propp, Esq.
Explanation: The parts of this motion provide for the continuance of the committee to complete its work.
Respectfully submitted,
(s) Donald Eastlake, III
Item 8A
MS to consider as a whole; no objection. Richard Russell gave notice that he would move to delete "where appropriate" from subsection C. Default time limit, 20 minutes. MS to set limit at 10, 20, 4 (Mr. Yalow moved to specify that only 2 of the 4 minutes would be allowed for amendments), 9 minutes; 20 minutes, defeated; 10 minutes, passed.
Item 8B
(The Chair estimated that the costs in subsection D would not exceed $250 for each committee.) Default time limit, 20 minutes. MS to set limit at 6 minutes. MS to consider now rather than on Sunday. MS (Kent Bloom) to postpone consideration to the end of the Preliminary agenda: failed l6-17; recount requested; failed again, 19-21. Item 8B was therefore without objection considered immediately, and as a whole. MS to set debate limit at 6 minutes: no objection. MS (Gary Feldbaum) to add ", and to take such action as is necessary to protect the registration" at the end of subsection C: amendment passed unanimously. The question was called on Item 8B, and the motion as amended passed unanimously.
A change of ‘in existence’ to ‘selected’ was suggested, and accepted by the maker of the motion. The Chair ruled that a change in the rotation of Worldcon zones would not constitute an ‘additional obligation’ on the administering Committee. - Default time limit, 6 minutes. MS to set the limit at 10, 6, 4 minutes; 10 minutes, defeated; 6 minutes, passed.
(This amendment would clarify the definition of the Dramatic Presentation Hugo, the current text of which was written at a time before the proliferation of ‘miniseries’. It would confirm the eligibility of serialized dramas such as The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1978) or The Martian Chronicles. (1980), or the current year’s radio production of Star Wars, while maintaining the ineligibility of ‘series’ whose individual programs are separate stories.)
Default time limit, 6 minutes. MS to set limit at 8, 4 minutes; 8 minutes, passed.
(The intent of this motion is to prevent a recurrence of the situation which occurred in 1981, wherein lack of information prevented a late bid from appearing on the ballot.)
MS to object to consideration: the vote was 18~10 favor of consideration.
MS to strike the explanatory sentence ("The intent of this motion...") from the agenda of the Main Business Meeting; the Secretary stated that he had no intention of reprinting, any of the explanations, but the motion was not withdrawn; the question was called, and the motion to strike passed, 20-6. Questions were raised as to the "six months" period, and the maker expressed willingness to defer to the meeting’s judgment. MS to replace "six" by "four", "ten" (withdrawn), and "three"; also MS to insert a blank to be filled at Sunday’s meeting, but the meeting voted 20-7 to decide the matter now; the question was called, and the amendment to change "six" to "four" passed. During the latter debate, a proposal to insert "to be included on the ballot" after "Committees" in the first line was accepted without objection. - Default time limit, 20 minutes. MS to set the limit at 6 minutes: no objection.
(The intent of this motion is twofold: to remove the possibility that the Constitution may be interpreted to give the current Convention Committee the right to declare an agreement inadequate; and to treat NASFiC bids equal to Worldcon bids if an agreement for either is submitted.)
MS to object to consideration: overwhelming vote (3-many) against consideration.
MS to object to consideration: overwhelming vote against consideration.
(This is intended to prevent future problems such as that involving Superman II this year.) Notice was given of an amendment to specify that the Business Meeting shall determine "limited distribution", though the Chair ruled that this was implicit in the text. - Default time limit: 6 minutes. MS to set the limit at 4, 6 minutes; 6 minutes, passed.
MS to object to consideration: the vote was 10-18 against consideration, but since this was less than 2/3, consideration was approved. MS to divide the question: passed; parts 1 and 2 above are therefore redefined as Items 16A and 16B respectively.
Item 16A Steve Whitmore suggested. replacing "minors" by "under eighteen years of age": accepted by the makers. The Chair ruled that the reduction would not apply to the site-selection voting fee. The makers accepted the interpretation that voters generally would not be affected, and agreed to specify "for non-voting membership". An amendment to change "still in college" to "full-time college students" was also accepted by the makers. MS to postpone further consideration to Saturday's meetings passed, with no objection to the Secretary's rewording the motion in accordance with the changes thus far voted.
The time being 11:38 A.M., after the scheduled time of adjournment, MS (Mr. Yalow) to extend the meeting for 10 minutes more: no objection.
Item 16B MS to object to consideration; after some doubt (because of the defeat of this motion on the original Item 16), the Chair ruled that the motion was in order. Overwhelming vote (7-many) against consideration.
Item 17 (see the first paragraph in Friday minutes), submitted by Catherine Filipowicz and Leslie Turek at the suggestion of the Chair:
MS to object to consideration: vote of 8-19 against consideration. Meeting adjourned at 11:43 A.M..
The meeting was called to order at 9:35 A.M. According to the attendance list passed around, 57 people attended (including the Officers).
I would like to propose the following actions be taken at Denvention and thereafter: Report to the Business Meeting that no progress has been made, and request that the same committee be reappointed, if that is necessary, with instructions to retort at Chicon. [The oral report differed in proposing the formation of a new committee.] It would also be reported to the Business Meeting that the approach this committee will be taking is for the formation of a Board of Governors of some size, including, at least, one representative from the previous Worldcon, the current Worldcon, and the next Worldcon. This Board will conduct the business of the Society (i.e., will conduct the site selection, Hugo nominations and voting, and will preside over the Business Meeting). The Board shall have no authority within itself to select or remove the right to host the Worldcon. Winning bids shall be required to present to the Board 13-14 months prior to their convention a signed [agreement or] contract with their site. Should no such agreement or contract be provided, the Board shall bring before the next Business Meeting a discussion of what, if any, action should be taken, and that Business Meeting shall decide. The Board shall receive a flat amount, to be determined, to cover incidental expenses such as phone calls and postage. Anything over that stipend shall be paid for "out-of-pocket" by the members of the Board.
Mr. Miller reported that a straw poll of the committee endorsed this report, 9-6 (the majority including 2 members added by him). There was no minority report. The following motion was then submitted by Stuart C. Hellinger and Jeffrey del Papa (apparently with the endorsement. of Mr. Miller) :
MS (Mr. Hellinger) to fill the blank (chairman's name) with Ben Yalow. MS (Mr. Miller) to fill the blank with Dalroy Ward. There being only two candidates, there was no objection to simply voting between the two: Ben Yalow 19, Dalroy Ward 23. No objection to inserting Mr. Ward's name in the motion. MS to delete "eight" in line 5: the question was called, and the amendment passed many-2. The motion as amended was then passed overwhelmingly.
The Chair stated his interpretation that age would be determined as of the time of the transaction. Notice was given of an amendment to specify students under age 24. It was proposed to add "initial" before "conversion" in line 5: accepted without objection. A question was raised as to whether art show fees, dealer’s tables, movie tickets would be included; the Chair ruled that at least movie tickets would be, probably not the others. There was no objection to inserting "attendance at" before "such other functions" in line 3. Notice was given of an amendment to strike the "other functions" clause. Notice was also given of an amendment to strike the "college students" clauses - Default time limit, 20 minutes. MS to set limit at 10, 20, 6 minutes: 20 minutes, defeated: 10 minutes, passed 26-19.
Meeting adjourned at 10:24 A.M.
The meeting was called to order at 9:30 A.M.. According to the attendance list, 105 people attended (including the officers). Bob Hillis was appointed Timekeeper.
The Chair reported the results of the site-selection voting:
| At-Con | Total | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Baltimore | 432 | 484 | 916 |
| Australia | 266 | 257 | 523 |
| Scandinavia | 89 | 99 | 188 |
| No Preference | 23 | 14 | 37 |
| Write-Ins* | 6 | 6 | 12 |
| None of the Above | 3 | 0 | 3 |
| 819 | 860 | 1679 | |
| Write-ins: New York, 5; Johnstown, PA, 4; Medlow Bath, Australia, 1; Rottnest, Australia, 1; Skaro, 1. | |||
[A separate initial count gave 1705 ballots received, of which 1683 were valid; the discrepancy was not felt to be worth a recount. -22 ballots were rejected for various reasons] (The box of actual ballots was also present, in case anyone cared to check the count.) Baltimore was declared the winner of the 1983 Worldcon, and Chairman Mike Walsh made a few remarks. - Brief presentations were also made by the 1984 bidders: Kent Bloom for London, and Craig Miller for Los Angeles.
The meeting then began consideration of the proposed amendments to the WSFS Constitution.
Items 8A, 10, 11, 12, and 15 have now been passed once, and will become part of the WSFS Constitution if ratified at Chicon IV.
Mr. Hillis asked unanimous consent to request that the same list of Worldcon committees as in Item 8B (P. 3) also share the cost of the WSFS Constitution Committee (pp. 6-7): passed.
MS (Mr. Russell) a round of applause for the table officers: passed. MS (Mr. Katze) to adjourn: passed at l1:50 A.M.
All business having been completed, there was no need to hold the scheduled Monday Business Meeting.
According to the attendance lists, the following people attended one or more sessions of the Business Meeting: Cliff Amos, Clifton Amsbury, Lynn Anderson, B. Shirley Avery, Allan Beatty, Anders Bellis, Joanne Belton, Kent Bloom, Alan Bostick, Gerald Boyko, Seth Breidbart, Jordan Brown, Judith Burger, Brian L. Burley, Marty Cantor, John Chapman, Kathleen Clowers, Candy Collamer, Angelo D'Alessio, Genny Dazzo, Dan Deckert, Danise Deckert, Jeff Del Papa, Scott Dennis, Martin Deutsch, Ann Dietz, Andrew R. Dyer, Donald Eastlake, Jill Eastlake, Lise Eisenberg, Janice Eldridge, Russ Elliott,, Jon Estren, Doug Faunt, Moshe Feder, Gary Feldbaum, Catherine Filipowicz, Wilma Fisher, George Flynn, Alan Frisbie, Evelyn Frost, Paul Gadzikowski, Frank Gasperik, Robert Gerber, Peter N. Glaskowsky, Mike Glicksohn, Ric Goldman, Louis Elver Gray, John Guidry, George E. Harris, Stuart C. Hellinger, Robert L. Hillis, David A. Hurst, Ann Marie Jackowski, Walter Jackowski, Dennis Jarog, Neil E. Kaden, Rick Katze, Gail S. Kaufman, Jerry Kaufman, Steve Larue, Joseph Lattin, Owen K. Laurion, Harry F. Leonard, Paula Lieberman, Dennis Lien, Tommy Ljungberg, Charlie H. Luce Jr., Ted Manekin, Ted Marshall, George E. Martin, Marty Massoglia, Linda McAllister, Rich McAllister, Sharane McCurry, Timothy P. Merrigan, Craig Miller, Dennis B. Miller, Liana Mirkin, George Mitchell, Lex Nakashima, Dawn Nance, Mark Nelson, Scott S. Norton, Frank C. Olbris, Gene Olmsted, Louise J. Olson, Robert Osband, Mark Owings, Fred Patten, Peggy Rae Pavlat, Bruce Pelz, Elayne Pelz, James Pilvinis, Andy Porter, Richard K. Preston, Alan Rachlin, Jeff Rebholz, Roger Reynolds, Larry Ruh, Richard S. Russell, Louise Sachter, Stephen M. St. Onge, Harold P. Sanderson, Joy K. Sanderson, Kathy Sands, Leo Sands, David Elving Schwartz, Joyce Scrivner, Dale Seim, Don Simpson, Fran Skene, Dick Smith, Victoria A. Smith, Jack Speer. Milton F. Stevens, Erwin S. Strauss, ? Thomas, ? Thomas, Jeff Thomas, Leslie Turek, Pat Vandenberg, G.H. Van Dorn, Anna Vargo, Gail A. Walker, David Wallace, Michael Walsh, Dalroy M. Ward, Michael J. Ward, Susan Wheeler, Stephen T. Whitmore, Edie Williams, Laura J. Williams, Robert Winfield, Lew Wolkoff, Ken Wong, Chris Woodruff, Ben Yalow, Bernie Zuber; I make it 139 people. These minutes will be sent to all attendees at the Business Meeting and to all persons who submitted business,
Respectfully submitted,
George Flynn, Secretary
Sept. 18-Oct. 2, 198l